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Monday, November 18, 2013

Bizzare, interesting exchange between a Tea Party extremist and a very well educated Conservative!

This has to be the most bizarre exchange I have ever witnessed between a Tea Party nut-job (Sarah Palin crowd) and a real life, smart and educated, Republican Conservative: (link) 
Patriot123579 disqus_dcwFI0hvgS
Think what you want. My voting record and post history speaks for itself. Regardless, even if Obama isn't legitimately a U.S. citizen, he's still 5 years into an 8 year term, the energy to try and prove he isn't legitimately a U.S. citizen is a waste of time. He's screwed up in a lot of other areas we can chase him down on. Chasing the citizenship story is political suicide and discredits all the other evil $h|t Obama is involved in, so I'd rather concentrate on THOSE ISSUES (e.g. Obamacare, Fast & Furious) then worry about a conspiracy that will never go anywhere.
Just my thoughts, but hell what do I know I've only been a student politics my entire friggin life.
RLinAZ Patriot123579
You are dead wrong. It does matter! It matters a great deal. When Obama is proven to be ineligible to ever have held the office of the presidency we will be able to erase him from our history books as a fraud, a former US president as an asterisk and a cautionary lesson. Which is STILL more than he deserves. It also voids everything he has done. it additionally reveals the traitorous media for what they have been and are. It will reveal the Liberals/Progressives/Democrats intentional, willful subversion of our nation and it will force them to become accountable and forthcoming if they ever want to elect another candidate again. But other than these things, among others, I suppose it doesn't matter.
Patriot123579 RLinAZ
That's Tea Party talk. It's a distraction at this point. Believe me, I TOTALLY WISH there was a way to establish DEFINITIVELY and WITHOUT DOUBT that Obama isn't legitimately a U.S. Citizen. I hate him more than any other president in U.S. history. It's just not possible at this point. Fight the battles you can win. We can't win this one my friend.
RLinAZ Patriot123579
I'm not your friend if you denigrate the Tea Party and you denigrate and mock people who won't capitulate to the lies of Obama's origin. And because you say it isn't possible means you are a quitter. Many of us are not...we fight for the TRUTH to prevail. Just because the majority has decided to walk away from the FACT this man has NEVER been eligible to hold the presidential office doesn't mean we shouldn't work to reveal it. When it's finally disclosed it will be the only true, irrefutable, non-racially biased fact to remove him from office. And if it is revealed after he leaves office he will be a disgrace and an asterisk. Yes, just keep on voting for McCain....and for more cowbell.
Patriot123579 RLinAZ
Wow. Just wow. The funny part is that I defended the Tea Party movement when it started and continued to do so up until very recently. Here you are eating your own. That's too bad. Your hatred will consume you and you will never see your goals fulfilled because you are so far to the right you've lost objectivity to have rationale discourse. You're now just a waste of my time. Good day Sir (or Ma'am) best of luck charging the bunker.
This is the kind of infighting and extremism that is destroying the Republican Party at its core. Party leadership is letting the loudest, most extreme and sometimes ignorant factions of the party go out and preach to the masses their message of conspiracy theories, anarchy and the atypical, the world is ending message.
 
People get turned off by this approach as this is the laughable approach by extreme Conservative faith based radicals like Pat Robertson who give the GOP a bad name.
In a time and day, when they party needs to organize as a united front and stand behind a common theme and platform that will be front and center come 2016, you have the Conservatives saying this. Moderates saying that and the extremists drawing all the wrong types of attention.
 
The Republican Party needs a Howard Dean type personality that is going to stand up and take control of the reigns and the outgoing message. Someone that can coordinate the narrative and creative an attack plan on multiple fronts. Someone who can also be crafty and creative with defense plans to hold certain seats in play with a recent showing that things might be to close for comfort in 2014 and 2016.
 
If Chris Christie is going to be the best shot and lead horse heading out of the GOP convention, than I suggest letting his people get into the mix and start this process now.
 
Sitting around and thinking, that a misaligned roll out of ObamaCare will be your parties saving grace is a horribly bad idea.
 
There will be several debt ceiling and government shutdown situations between now and key election dates in 2014 and 16. If the current leadership caves like it did to the Tea Party with the recent shutdown, you risk the chance of alienating your Conservative base who want to have nothing to do with the Palin's and Cruz's of the political world.
Besides, shutting down the entire political machine on the hill accomplished nothing, cost tax payer's millions and really hurt the Republican brand in the long run.
 
On the fence, non party affiliated voters like me will either shy away or be turned off from the spin and idea that the Republican Party is holding the economy hostage again.
Voters like me, who could go either way are the ones you need to get back into the White House and possibly grab control of the entire Congress and White House once again.

Realistically, I don't see that happening till the current GOP leadership does an about face and realizes that what is best about your party is going back to core Conservative values and refusing to aligning your political fortunes with them could end up costing your party everything!

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